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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    The views of a retired politician from a troubled area of Pakistan on an obscure website are very compelling.
    Much better than reading HKFP written by a bunch of nobodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    Much better than reading HKFP written by a bunch of nobodies.
    Perhaps. Do you have any international press that actually do praise the interment actions in Xinjiang?

  3. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Can you explain why the Iraq war that pivoted around the false potential for a Dictator's desires to again use WMD's is a good reason for locking up Chinese nationals by the Chinese state?
    Ok troll. Have a good night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    Ok troll. Have a good night.
    Someone posts digressive, extraneous, or off-topic points that looks tenuous at best, another person agrees and I ask for clarification. Is that trolling?

    Perhaps you could give a clarification on this as well as why gangs in America, badly managed aid programs in Europe etc etc all justify why interment of Chinese Nationals by the Chinese state is justified.

  5. #265
    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Someone posts digressive, extraneous, or off-topic points that looks tenuous at best, another person agrees and I ask for clarification. Is that trolling?
    Absolutely. It's not off-topic.

    The Iraq war created ISIS.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a6912236.html

    And here is the result.

    The central government’s concerns over the region were also the result of the release of a video by ISIS, which showed images of Uyghurs engaged in military exercises with the objective to spread jihad in China.
    https://www.ispionline.it/en/pubblic...xinjiang-21732

    Support of the Iraq war on the night of the attack stood at 72%.

    Hence democracy gave you Xinjiang internment camps. No ISIS, no Al-Qaeda, no terror crackdown in China

    No Iraq war, no refugee crisis, possibly no Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    Absolutely. It's not off-topic.

    The Iraq war created ISIS.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a6912236.html

    And here is the result.



    https://www.ispionline.it/en/pubblic...xinjiang-21732

    Support of the Iraq war on the night of the attack stood at 72%.

    Hence democracy gave you Xinjiang internment camps. No ISIS, no Al-Qaeda, no terror crackdown in China

    No Iraq war, no refugee crisis, possibly no Brexit.
    Tenuous at best. There have been 16 years since the US led invasion.

    Other countries have not arbitrarily locked up a million of their citizens.
    Last edited by East_coast; 11-02-2019 at 12:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    Absolutely. It's not off-topic.

    The Iraq war created ISIS.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a6912236.html

    And here is the result.



    https://www.ispionline.it/en/pubblic...xinjiang-21732

    Support of the Iraq war on the night of the attack stood at 72%.

    Hence democracy gave you Xinjiang internment camps. No ISIS, no Al-Qaeda, no terror crackdown in China

    No Iraq war, no refugee crisis, possibly no Brexit.
    Thanks for the scholarly article rather than news. Even this piece doesn't point a rosy picture ending with

    On the top of all this, the central government has now started to install several internment camps where local population is confined, indoctrinated and controlled. The political situation in the region will inevitably become more difficult to interpret

  8. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Tenuous at best. There have been 16 years since the US led invasion.
    Ah yes, and it's been peachy ever since.

    Direct casualties are in 160-600K range. It is clear that this "debacle" has impacted many millions.

    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Other countries have not arbitrarily locked up a million of their citizens.
    You have a short memory. CIA black sites, Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib. Arbitrary drone bombings have taken place ever since. All under the watchful eye of democracy. I'd rather be forced to a year of clothes stitching than being pulverized? How about you?

  9. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Thanks for the scholarly article rather than news. Even this piece doesn't point a rosy picture ending with

    On the top of all this, the central government has now started to install several internment camps where local population is confined, indoctrinated and controlled. The political situation in the region will inevitably become more difficult to interpret
    There is no rosy picture in countering well funded International terrorism.

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    It's all fake news anyway... even the BBC admits, the dude in question is fine https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47191952