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    (Copied out from the FCC thread)

    #1 lesson. If your job might require you to travel through high surveillance areas to conduct state sanctioned operations - avoid social media.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-saudi-arabia


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    And Trump (finally) believes he may be dead...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/u...oggi-dead.html


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    It is terrible and reports are gruesome if true.

    What gets me is all the handwringing and pullouts and gnashing of teeth over this journalist (all justified if this is true), meanwhile the millions in Yemen? Bomb and starve millions, spread terrorism, all fine no problem carry on as normal, lets do business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    It is terrible and reports are gruesome if true.

    What gets me is all the handwringing and pullouts and gnashing of teeth over this journalist (all justified if this is true), meanwhile the millions in Yemen? Bomb and starve millions, spread terrorism, all fine no problem carry on as normal, lets do business.
    The situation is Yemen is horrible, and yet it has been going for years, with almost zero coverage, zero action. Here, one man causes global outrage and cries of how awful, because his death, as an American resident fits a convenient political narrative and fingers can be pointed at Trump.

    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=42058728
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    Because it is a legitimate question. Why does the death of one man matter so much, over the deaths of hundreds of thousands being slowly starved to death by the same regime?

    The Yemen war is also state-sanction Saudi violence. Where is the huge outcry, the international teams going in to look for evidence? Why is it able to be ignored when so many people are being slaughtered, but not ok to kill one man?

    It's not what-aboutism, it's rank hypocrisy by people (liberal political activists mostly) who appear to be quite happy to use one death to score political points against Trump, but haven't so much as raised a finger to click on a link about Yemen in years.

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    And if you really insist on posts being directly related to your thread title, here's an important lesson from Khashoggi:

    Don't ignore all the other abuses from violent regimes because it is politically expedient to do so, and then complain about the one time when political points could be scored against an opponent, because it's not a good look to be so self-serving.


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    Read my post, it clearly states my view on the journalist. Is the death of millions by the same regime not worth mentioning? It is not whataboutery, in my view it is a totally valid question, one that needs to be asked if we have any humanity.

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    The story is making headlines because it implicates the most important US ally in the region and Trump continuously refer to journalists as an enemy of the state so we are curious how the White House will respond.

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    Yea, here is another legitimate question
    There are millions more. Lets all ask them here, shall we...

    https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018...d-in-benghazi/

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    One thing, on topic, is that all the evidence appears to come from the Turkish government. Up to a couple of weeks ago we were told it was a lying, murderous repressive regime. What credibility do they have then?


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