View Poll Results: Brext Bets?

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  • As Planned on March 29th

    2 7.14%
  • No Deal on March 29th

    8 28.57%
  • Delayed to 2021

    7 25.00%
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    11 39.29%
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Brexit Bets - May may delay?

  1. #271

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit
    @stickyears very quiet recently.

    Parliament has voted against a no-deal Brexit at any time.

    The choices now seem to be a shitty deal that is akin to staying or a lengthy delay that might lead to no Brexit or an even softer Brexit.

    Brexiteers must be crying into their full English breakfasts. The tragedy is the UK is going to be worse off no matter what happens now.
    I'm not sure how this is playing out in Britain but has the plot been lost with the average UK citizen?

    By that I mean has this thing got so messed up that both sides have lost sight of the objectives and outcomes? It just ends up with people for and against with little to no rational for their views.

    We see that with the pipeline debate in Canada. The benefits and dis-benefits lost.

    Canadian news media make it sound like PM May is running this file virtually alone (which maybe is a difference with Canada where our foreign affairs minister would take the lead).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Football16
    We see that with the pipeline debate in Canada. The benefits and dis-benefits lost.
    The Canadian Pipeline issue is simple. Build the pipeline to lower emissions and cost for distribution and tax gas (petrol) to lower consumption. It is just the Canadian PM not able to anything that might be unpopular is the issue.

    Brexit requires the EU to allow a simple smooth exit from the EU club.

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    So now Bercow has ruled there will be no third vote unless May presents it with substantive changes. She should probably crash Parliament and ask the Queen to open a new session if she is determined to force her shitty deal through.

    It looks unclear if she'll manage to cobble together enough votes for her shitty deal in any case.

    shri likes this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit
    So now Bercow has ruled there will be no third vote unless May presents it with substantive changes. She should probably crash Parliament and ask the Queen to open a new session if she is determined to force her shitty deal through.

    It looks unclear if she'll manage to cobble together enough votes for her shitty deal in any case.
    Granted that most of the latest moves in this debacle defy belief, but going down that route would seem to be more of a constitutional crisis than all the others we've had in the last few weeks. May doesn't (yet) have the votes to get her deal passed, and using the Queen as a back route to trying to get the already twice rejected deal another lifeline really would be a step too far.

    May not be necessary anyway:

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status...24808018636803


    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit
    @stickyears very quiet recently.

    Parliament has voted against a no-deal Brexit at any time.

    The choices now seem to be a shitty deal that is akin to staying or a lengthy delay that might lead to no Brexit or an even softer Brexit.

    Brexiteers must be crying into their full English breakfasts. The tragedy is the UK is going to be worse off no matter what happens now.
    We still have Corbynite EC, albeit they are probably opposing ends of the political spectrum, but in these strange times the result is the same.

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    In order of my personal preference this is what I think are the best options for the country

    Cancellation of Brexit (Tory party would need to split beforehand, and new elections won by explicitly pro-Remain party)
    Rip up the WA and start again, spend two years on a super soft Brexit
    No-deal exit in 3 months (before elections)
    No-deal exit in 10 days
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    Theresa May's shitty deal

    I still can't believe how badly May has played this. It's hard to think in what way her horrific performance as Home Secretary prepared her for the PM's job.


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