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    Medical workers -> high risk groups -> other frontline workers -> vaccine funding group priorities -> paying customers -> those who want it -> those who don’t want it (some possibility of this happening in certain places).

    The size of each group matters too, but roughly along the lines. If one is much smaller than another ahead in the list (e.g. funding group priorities), it would be an argument to push them forward.

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    Oxford vaccine:

    Investigators also noted fewer vaccinated participants developed asymptomatic COVID-19, a finding that, while not conclusive, suggests the shot could help slow the spread of the coronavirus as well.

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    The world isn't a face place. Resources are by no means distributed fairly as it is. Why should it start now for a vaccine?

    If the rich can get the vaccine and start traveling again, they can bring their tourists dollars to developing countries. I can't imagine how this is devastating a country like Nepal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsianXpat0:
    Aramis ~
    Oxford vaccine:
    Longshot and since it won't really be known for a while, I still don't see how it will impact traveling in the short term.

    This isn’t rare for vaccines. Dr. Moss said most vaccines don’t actually stop a virus from entering your body.

    “That requires a really strong kind of immune response to prevent infection,” he said.

    Simply put, we don’t know if these vaccines prevent infection, but we do know their primary job is to stop the virus from becoming a disease or lessen the disease.



    https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/v...8-8cfb3423a3b6

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    Quote Originally Posted by MABinPengChau:
    The US handled things in about the worst possible way, agreed, but it still didn't start in the US and the main fault was in letting it spread far and wide around the globe, which is clearly the fault of China- while they kept people from Wuhan from going to places like Beijing, they complained when other countries tried to place bans on Chinese travelers.

    So, from that point of view, and given that a US company is a developer of said vaccine, I feel like Americans and Europeans getting priority is still OK- let's face it, these are the places the Chinese were travelling to, not so much sub-Saharan Africa.
    China has been giving experimental Vaccine already to priority rankings

    The outbreak has sparked plans to give high-risk workers at the travel hub an experimental vaccine that Beijing has already been providing to state employees, international students and essential workers heading abroad since July.
    https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...0-20201124.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckster007:
    China has been giving experimental Vaccine already to priority rankings



    https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...0-20201124.htm
    A colleague suggested to me there have been a few outbreaks recently in Shanghai. They speculated similar background issues as HK had for a few weeks but without the open reporting of the single digit cases. No idea if this is true but there is some speculation in the chattering classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdw:
    Here in Australia, we are more excited about the Oxford vaccine rather than Pfizer or Moderna, because even though it's slightly less effective (90% Oxford vs 95% for Pfizer/Moderna) it can be transported and distributed at "regular vaccine refridgeration temperatures". So will be much easier and cheaper to distribute. So we've got our money on this one.

    Qantas CEO under fire today for making vaccination mandatory for anyone travelling on Qantas international flights. Although I am not really sure what all the fuss is about, I am sure most countries and airlines are going to have a rule similar to this anyway.and it makes sense to me.

    https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...73e4def7505a15
    that will rule out kids travelling , these potential vaccines have not been tested / certified for children.

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    With an average age of dying from Covid being 84 years (females) perhaps Covid really is a first world disease. There is no doubt that developing countries have been hit but the highest death rates are for societies rich enough to put the old and infirm in specialist homes

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    With an average age of dying from Covid being 84 years (females) perhaps Covid really is a first world disease. There is no doubt that developing countries have been hit but the highest death rates are for societies rich enough to put the old and infirm in specialist homes
    There is a reason why life expectancy is low in developing countries. People are dying of all kinds of diseases because they have very limited access to health care. That also means that millions possibly caught it and thousands died and no one would really know because of the limited access. If you just take malaria, there are over two hundred millions of cases and half a million deaths because drugs are not available. You think that they will have COVID tests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis:
    You think that they will have COVID tests?
    No

    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis:
    There is a reason why life expectancy is low in developing countries. People are dying of all kinds of diseases because they have very limited access to health care. That also means that millions possibly caught it and thousands died and no one would really know because of the limited access. If you just take malaria, there are over two hundred millions of cases and half a million deaths because drugs are not available.
    Yes which means the population for the target age group for Covid is smaller. If the disease targeted the malnourished for example rather than the old it would sadly be 'less' of a global issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    If the disease targeted the malnourished for example rather than the old it would sadly be 'less' of a global issue.
    Unsurprisingly, the media is far more concerned about what is happening in richer countries since the developed world is constantly forgotten but they are no less untouched. Of course, we are suffering so much with not being able to go to bars and gyms and foregoing the holidays abroad that it's hard to think about developing countries.

    https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0...648-2/fulltext