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    US over a half million per day, impossible to get a test in most places so severely undercounting (also undercounting the significant numbers of home testers). Saw a graphic on the news that, amazingly, still 60 percent or so is estimated to be delta (not that US sequences all the much). Also, places like France and Germany are still overwhelmingly delta. Was quite surprised by this...

    The latest scaremongering is the "super omicron-delta" that mutates when some lucky bugger gets both at the same time and they combine in his system...pretty sure if that happens it will be one of the many super-unhealthy people in the US who does it, so FINALLY the US can spread its own mutation to the world (they've been feeling neglected...).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornmeal:
    Canada admits it's hit its maximum testing capacity and will not provide tests to mild/asymptomatic cases as 30-40% of tests are already positive indicating significant community spread.

    Starts at about 2mins in:

    https://youtu.be/6vSpq_S8Hvk
    Australians have been sleeping overnight in their cars lined up for PCR tests. So many been trying to get tested because its a requirement for travel, even domestically like going from Sydney to Brisbane, so many Aussies want to go on holidays so have been lining up for tests even they are not sick. This 'tourism testing' is crippling the system and those that are really sick cannot get tested.

    So now most Australian states agree to accept the rapid antigen test you can do at home for travelling purposes. The prime minister tells everyone today to go home, or go to the beach, forget about the PCR tests, they are a thing of the past from today. They use up too many resources and who gives a shit if you are positive anymore where there are 30,000 people per day coming back positive now. Just forget about it.

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    Another thing Australia changed overnight is the definition of a "close contact". Now a close contact is someone you live with in the same house, or spent more than 4 hours with. None of this bullshit about being in the same restaurant or sharing the same bus or train ride somewhere. That's all way to hard to manage. It's so much easier to find close contacts and do all that contact tracing crap when you lower the criteria for being a close contact. Also "casual contacts", fuck them, they dont exist anymore!


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    What's the point of testing when the infection rate is so high? If you have symptoms, you probably have covid. Testing is pointless at this point. Treatment and rest is all you can do.


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    Exploding “herd immunity” WW1 outdated thinking hopefully leads to better 2022. Get vaccinated or face the consequences. Enough with testing, quarantine, passports etc. and pursuing phantoms + demonising the admittedly ignorant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bdw:
    Australians have been sleeping overnight in their cars lined up for PCR tests. So many been trying to get tested because its a requirement for travel, even domestically like going from Sydney to Brisbane, so many Aussies want to go on holidays so have been lining up for tests even they are not sick. This 'tourism testing' is crippling the system and those that are really sick cannot get tested.

    So now most Australian states agree to accept the rapid antigen test you can do at home for travelling purposes. The prime minister tells everyone today to go home, or go to the beach, forget about the PCR tests, they are a thing of the past from today. They use up too many resources and who gives a shit if you are positive anymore where there are 30,000 people per day coming back positive now. Just forget about it.
    It's not going to help at all, at least not in NSW. The travel-related tests were a mere 20% of the total.

    The queues are long because the virus is spreading like wildfire. Current daily cases per capita in NSW is higher than that of the USA (which itself is at a record of over 500,000 cases per day).

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.YU:
    What's the point of testing when the infection rate is so high? If you have symptoms, you probably have covid. Testing is pointless at this point. Treatment and rest is all you can do.
    NSW had herd immunity with >93.6% double-vaccinated. In fact it was so good that the Delta wave was crushed. However, that effect lasted less than 30 days with the arrival of Omicron on 23 Nov. I don't see why Omicron infection would lead to better immunity in the face of a future immune-escaping variant.

    Surely people know by now that SARS-COV-2 will continue to evolve as long as it is given a chance to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsianXpat0:
    Exploding “herd immunity” WW1 outdated thinking hopefully leads to better 2022. Get vaccinated or face the consequences. Enough with testing, quarantine, passports etc. and pursuing phantoms + demonising the admittedly ignorant.
    And those who can't get treated for other things because the hospitals are full?

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    And those who can't get treated for other things because the hospitals are full?
    Looking at my comment in the context of U.S., U.K., and Australia unable to keep pace with testing -

    Any place competent enough would have planned for that. If you can’t test that means uncontainable spread, so the small enhancement from vaccination seems hardly relevant.

    If worried about the virus, then stopping it at the borders seems to have been the answer, but the majority seem against that, or at least the overkill.

    S Africa on the other hand may prove the sharper the spike the steeper the fall. So maybe the time having to avoid bike accidents is shorter?

    In other words, unhappy but unavoidable.

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