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    The omicron variant is much less likely to lead to hospitalisation but if you have enough cases that can still lead to a spike

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdw:
    Australians have been sleeping overnight in their cars lined up for PCR tests. So many been trying to get tested because its a requirement for travel, even domestically like going from Sydney to Brisbane, so many Aussies want to go on holidays so have been lining up for tests even they are not sick. This 'tourism testing' is crippling the system and those that are really sick cannot get tested.

    So now most Australian states agree to accept the rapid antigen test you can do at home for travelling purposes. The prime minister tells everyone today to go home, or go to the beach, forget about the PCR tests, they are a thing of the past from today. They use up too many resources and who gives a shit if you are positive anymore where there are 30,000 people per day coming back positive now. Just forget about it.
    Don't understand why Australia are having problems with testing. They are experts at rapid tests, just ask the English cricket team. (Stolen from FB).
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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    The omicron variant is much less likely to lead to hospitalisation but if you have enough cases that can still lead to a spike

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    Now that so many have Omicron I would expect a significant portion of that (relatively small) spike is people who would have been hospitalised anyway and happen to have covid.

    With each day that passes it seems to be getting clearer that Omicron is going to a major net positive for the world as it pushes out delta. HK is about the only place where that isn't the case given it may well be transmissible enough to evade contact tracing and mass testing, while delta really wasn't. Even in the mainland the oldies are much more vaxxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peaky:
    Now that so many have Omicron I would expect a significant portion of that (relatively small) spike is people who would have been hospitalised anyway and happen to have covid.

    With each day that passes it seems to be getting clearer that Omicron is going to a major net positive for the world as it pushes out delta. HK is about the only place where that isn't the case given it may well be transmissible enough to evade contact tracing and mass testing, while delta really wasn't. Even in the mainland the oldies are much more vaxxed.

    That those who are dying just happen to have covid has been a constant theme of the last 2 years, and whilst it was of only moderate consequence in 2020 it is undoubtedly a very large factor for the latter half of 2021 and especially so in the last few months.

    There are after all close to 2,000 people dying every day in the UK anyway.

    If you were to subject the UK population to HK's massively inflated CT value PCR tests, how many more millions of 'cases' would be found?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsianXpat0:
    Looking at my comment in the context of U.S., U.K., and Australia unable to keep pace with testing -

    Any place competent enough would have planned for that. If you can’t test that means uncontainable spread, so the small enhancement from vaccination seems hardly relevant.

    If worried about the virus, then stopping it at the borders seems to have been the answer, but the majority seem against that, or at least the overkill.

    S Africa on the other hand may prove the sharper the spike the steeper the fall. So maybe the time having to avoid bike accidents is shorter?

    In other words, unhappy but unavoidable.
    To add to earlier, if it’s that important to avoid the unfortunate spikes, where are the people clamouring for lockdowns, to give up Christmas, to forgo travel, instead of wanting to make OTHER people forcibly vaccinated?

    Compromising bodily autonomy shouldn’t be a one-way street.

    Expecting doctors with the Hippocratic oath to potentially actively engage in the trolley experiment with younger age groups even more so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    You asking me to guess? I will go for 2,000 covid admissions per day, which is a lot less than the previous peak.
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