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    Japan 8000 more suicides during Covid

    Japan is still keeping very restrictive Covid policies compared to most parts of the world (obviously not China). There seems to have been a total of some 36 000 Covid related deaths in Japan. This should be seen in the light of that they now estimating there is an suicide rate which is 8000 higher than would otherwise been expected, mostly young people.

    Suicide is the ultimate end for someone with mental health issues, how many more extra are also suffering sever mental health issues but have not taken their life?

    Why does mental health take such a back-seat in Asian culture in general and more importantly the past two years when considering the risks to the population of certain Covid policies?

    https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-...gtype=homepage

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    Just FYI Japan isn’t keeping restrictive policies on covid at all. Apart from not allowing in tourists, life has been 100% normal for the best part of two years now. My children have been completely in-school for all but three weeks of the pandemic, bars and restaurants have been fully open for many months, able to work and holiday freely. Literally zero restrictions apart from the border issues mentioned.

    This is a separate discussion on why Asia lags on mental health care, which I agree with and is a big problem in Japan also. It’s think they will catch up gradually, but it’s a disgrace at the moment. Too much “gaman” in the culture

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    What explains the excess suicides then if everything has been as normal? Was the deaths rather in the earlier part of the Covid situation when things were not normal? The article seems to focus on that the deaths are related to economic issues, are much more people than normal struggling with making ends meet means?

    Also you can make a similar argument for HK, everything has more or less been normal here too, except mask wearing. But it affected my mental health a lot with the border closure..


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    Quote Originally Posted by RobRoy:
    Also you can make a similar argument for HK, everything has more or less been normal here too, except mask wearing. But it affected my mental health a lot with the border closure..
    There's a bit of a difference here. Japan is an entire country, Hong Kong is a city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl:
    There's a bit of a difference here. Japan is an entire country, Hong Kong is a city.
    True but shades in hell. Maybe the TheBrit is happy as ever in Japan, some others seems to have been affected. Obviously a large part of the HK population seems to not really care about Covid restrictions either, voluntarily keeps mask on etc..

    Still back to topic, what explains the excess deaths then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobRoy:
    What explains the excess suicides then if everything has been as normal? Was the deaths rather in the earlier part of the Covid situation when things were not normal? The article seems to focus on that the deaths are related to economic issues, are much more people than normal struggling with making ends meet means?

    Also you can make a similar argument for HK, everything has more or less been normal here too, except mask wearing. But it affected my mental health a lot with the border closure..
    I don’t know why, I am not a mental health expert. I’m guessing suicides were probably higher in most countries over the past few years?
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    Mental Issues in the East are given less to no attention at all unlike in the West where they really have programs to cope with this issue. In the East there are many superstitious beliefs that mental health issues are a form of demonic or witchcraft sorcery of some sort. really sad.


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    I have to say the raw numbers don’t show any pandemic spike in Japanese suicides. The authors of that study seen to be making some aggressive assumptions.

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    The article says that they assumed a continued downtrend, which instead turned to an uptrend. Indeed seems a bit aggressive though seeing those numbers. Just my own mathematical extrapolation is calculating like 4-5000 extra for the 2.5 year period. Not 8000..


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    Quote Originally Posted by RobRoy:
    True but shades in hell. Maybe the TheBrit is happy as ever in Japan, some others seems to have been affected. Obviously a large part of the HK population seems to not really care about Covid restrictions either, voluntarily keeps mask on etc..
    I would say that this is not a matter of 'shades' when one is 3000km across in it's longest direction, and the other is 35km.

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