TikTok - Shutdown v/s Domicile in US

[mrgoodkat]

First time I'm seeing TikTok / ByteDance mention that they'd rather shut down (assuming all legal options fail) v/s move to a US owned / operated environment.

The fact that they would prefer to shut down rather than sell tells you everything about their motives. TikTok isn't a business. It's a tool for shaping people's worldviews. No actual business would prefer exiting a market with nothing, over exiting a market with something, regardless of the circumstances leading to that exit.

There is a reason they don't want anyone looking at that algorithm, but it has nothing to do with business; licensing agreements would ensure that it couldn't lead to someone competing with them.

[newhkpr]

The fact that they would prefer to shut down rather than sell tells you everything about their motives. TikTok isn't a business. It's a tool for shaping people's worldviews. No actual business would prefer exiting a market with nothing, over exiting a market with something, regardless of the circumstances leading to that exit.

There is a reason they don't want anyone looking at that algorithm, but it has nothing to do with business; licensing agreements would ensure that it couldn't lead to someone competing with them.

Your argument makes little sense. So we have two scenarios based on what you believe. Namely that tiktok is a tool to shape (western) minds.

a) Get 100 Billion USD from someone buying it off of you. You can't shape people's minds anymore now, as the app is gone. You are $100,000,000,000 richer.

b) Just close it down for US customers. You can't shape people's minds anymore now, as the app is gone. You got no money either.

If it were all about shaping people's minds only and now about making money, then why would they ever not pick option a)? Either way no mind bending anymore. One gets you a lot more firepower to do other things, the other doesn't.

[mrgoodkat]

Your argument makes little sense. So we have two scenarios based on what you believe. Namely that tiktok is a tool to shape (western) minds.

a) Get 100 Billion USD from someone buying it off of you. You can't shape people's minds anymore now, as the app is gone. You are $100,000,000,000 richer.

b) Just close it down for US customers. You can't shape people's minds anymore now, as the app is gone. You got no money either.

If it were all about shaping people's minds only and now about making money, then why would they ever not pick option a)? Either way no mind bending anymore. One gets you a lot more firepower to do other things, the other doesn't.

In the first scenario the new owner would get access to the mind shaping tool algorithm and could publicize exactly how it worked and how much influence the CCP had over it. It would destroy the entire "business" model of Tiktok.

Option B is obviously only appealing if the goal of Tiktok is something other than making $100 billion.

[newhkpr]

In the first scenario the new owner would get access to the mind shaping tool algorithm and could publicize exactly how it worked and how much influence the CCP had over it. It would destroy the entire "business" model of Tiktok.

Option B is obviously only appealing if the goal of Tiktok is something other than making $100 billion.

How would this alleged "secret sauce" coming out destroy the business model? In both scenarios tiktok doesn't have access to the US consume anymore. The 'business model" is gone either way. One for free, one for a payout.

[Eddy Mundo]

Because they have a lical version called Douyin that complies with Chinese laws. Tiktok is really made for a global audience with no need to comply with chinese laws but rather the lawsnof other countries. Simple but people just dont prefer a simple explanation but rather be conspiracy theorists

Hey now, I love a good conspiracy

https://twitter.com/raymo_g/status/1783661423798759765

[hullexile]

The fact that they would prefer to shut down rather than sell tells you everything about their motives. TikTok isn't a business. It's a tool for shaping people's worldviews. No actual business would prefer exiting a market with nothing, over exiting a market with something, regardless of the circumstances leading to that exit.

There is a reason they don't want anyone looking at that algorithm, but it has nothing to do with business; licensing agreements would ensure that it couldn't lead to someone competing with them.

In what direction are their world views shaped?

[aquaman]

In what direction are their world views shaped?

any now long after I download the app my views starts changing?

[hullexile]

any now long after I download the app my views starts changing?

Overnight, that algorithm is created by the NWO. Covid was a hoax created by the Chinese and then Bill Gates and his cronies forced the vaccine on us which made everyone susceptible to the workings of the algorithm. The Queen as head of the NWO tried to stop them which is why they had her killed.

[mrgoodkat]

In what direction are their world views shaped?

In an anti Western, pro Russia and pro China direction.

To investigate, NCRI analyzed hashtag data related to six topics directly sensitive to the Chinese Government: 1) Uyghurs; 2) Tiananmen Square; 3) Tibet; 4) Hong Kong; 5) Taiwan; 6) South China Sea. Our presentation of data starts with Uyghurs and Tiananmen Square because those were two topics specifically called out at the March 2023 Congressional hearings, and TikTok’s CEO explicitly denied that in either case were posts on those topics suppressed or in any way demoted on the platform. We then expanded our research into topics relevant to the Chinese Government’s geopolitical interests: 1) Ukraine-Russia War; 2) Kashmir Independence; 3) Israel-Hamas War24. The conclusions of our research are clear: Whether content is promoted or muted onTikTok appears to depend on whether it is aligned or opposed to the interests of the Chinese Government. As the summary data graph below illustrates, the percentages of TikTok posts out of Instagram posts are consistently range-bound for general political and pop-culture topics, but completely out-of-bounds for topics sensitive to the Chinese Government.

https://networkcontagion.us/wp-conte...b_12.21.23.pdf

[hullexile]

In an anti Western, pro Russia and pro China direction.



https://networkcontagion.us/wp-conte...b_12.21.23.pdf

I don't think it is working very well. I have noticed a hell of a lot more pro China stuff on Facebook. Wonderful technology, bridges, ships, everything is better in China on Facebook. There is also a lot of pro China posts from apparent Filipinos. My daughters who use TT a lot think China is crap and everything made in China is crap. Need to revisit that algorithm.