2024 UK Election Results

[hullexile]

Can you cite an article that shows ex-BNP are welcome in the Reform Party. As far as I can see efforts were made to ensure ex-BNP or people who have publicly made racist or other such comments were screened out. Where the screening was shown to have failed the candidates were dismissed immediately and unceremoniously.

Yes some do associate a policy of wanting to go back to what were normal levels of immigration for 60+ years as racist.

Can you show where I said they were welcome?

Did you miss the two Reform candidates who quit the party because of racism?

[hullexile]

Can you cite an article that shows ex-BNP are welcome in the Reform Party. As far as I can see efforts were made to ensure ex-BNP or people who have publicly made racist or other such comments were screened out. Where the screening was shown to have failed the candidates were dismissed immediately and unceremoniously.

Yes some do associate a policy of wanting to go back to what were normal levels of immigration for 60+ years as racist.

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What I found interesting is that for years on here you have defended the Tories and their policies though critical of Boris for taking them too much to the left. And you are correct, if Boris is left then indeed Reform are centre.

Then suddenly before the election you became very critical of the Tories and said they didn't deserve to be elected.

Now very defensive of Reform and Farage. How to say you have switched party allegiance without actually saying it.

[GentleGeorge]

And you are correct, if Boris is left then indeed Reform are centre.

For now, they present themselves as nativists and classical liberals, and attract most of their vote for the former.

I have no doubt that if they get anywhere near real power, they will tack towards protectionism and handouts, because liberalism is unfortunately not very popular among their nativist audience.

[drumbrake]

Can you cite a racist statement by Mr Farage?

I recall a somewhat dubious poster of migrants crossing central Europe. What else?

Quite a long list of his racist statements can be found here: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-b1122381.html

[East_coast]

Can you show where I said they were welcome?

Did you miss the two Reform candidates who quit the party because of racism?

They were fired and Mr Farage has suggested he will sue the vetting agency who failed to do their job.

[East_coast]

Quite a long list of his racist statements can be found here: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-b1122381.html

Suggestion of singing Hitler Youth songs as a school child a defending someone who said 'Chinky' by relating it back to the 80's when he suggested it was a very common term are damming. As for Rivers of Blood speech Didn't Mr Farage said he agreed with concept of social integration for new arrivals into the UK but disagreed with Mr Powell on whether it was possible or not. Integration rather than isolation or assimilation has been mainstream policy for 60 years. Mr Powell was rightly sacked for inflaming racial tensions and was a clear turning point in UK politics.

[East_coast]

Now very defensive of Reform and Farage. How to say you have switched party allegiance without actually saying it.

I disagree with Mr Farage and believe the UK having more annual arrivals of immigrants than Italy, France, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium, Austria combined also with a much wider global connections post Brexit is a very good for the Country.

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But dismissing a political party by suggesting it is racist when they don't have any policies or rhetoric based on race is just lazy thinking. As I have stated Mr Farage will have a hard job keeping the loony right away but he clearly has tried. One volunteer leaflet distributor quoted with racist comments and he suggested he was goaded into racist remarks is far less than I would expected.

[Epidavros]

I expect Farage to be as diligent in his Clacton constituency duties as he was an MEP. They really hit the jackpot when they voted him in.

[huja]

Britain’s voters handed the Labour Party a landslide election victory this week, but one laden with asterisks.

Prime Minister Keir Starmer took office on Friday with a commanding majority in the British Parliament, yet in terms of the total number of ballots cast, his party won only a third of the vote, less than what it got in 2017 when it lost to the Conservatives. Labour made inroads across Britain, yet its wins were often eclipsed by the Tory losses, including that of Liz Truss, the unpopular former prime minister who was evicted from her seat.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/05/w...smid=url-share

[Epidavros]

When someone has been punching you in the face for hours, you feel relief, not jubilation when they stop.

Starmer and his party has a massive task ahead of him. The Tory freakshow has left the UK in such an appalling state and it will take a long time to sort out, if ever.
Roughly half of my relatives back home were Conservative party supporters but most of them don't recognise the party now. A few voted Labour, some other parties and some didn't vote. None voted Tory. One told me she would never vote tory again because of Johnson's behaviour.
Its fine to disagree with Labour's policies but thank goodness there is a boring, but decent man in Number 10.