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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    How many have had a career in the private sector is also just as important.
    We elect form filling bureaucrats to government and are surprised when they deliver us more forms!

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    I disagree with Mr Farage and believe the UK having more annual arrivals of immigrants than Italy, France, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium, Austria combined also with a much wider global connections post Brexit is a very good for the Country.

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    But dismissing a political party by suggesting it is racist when they don't have any policies or rhetoric based on race is just lazy thinking. As I have stated Mr Farage will have a hard job keeping the loony right away but he clearly has tried. One volunteer leaflet distributor quoted with racist comments and he suggested he was goaded into racist remarks is far less than I would expected.
    He didn't manage to keep them out of his own constituency team though. Can you imagine if they were in power, make Trump's Jan 6th thugs look like wimps.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...n-nigel-farage

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    How many have had a career in the private sector is also just as important.

    Only 16.7% of the population work in the public sector but 100% of the Starmer cabinet appear to have no experience that matches 83% of the population.
    I guess it depends how you define "private sector".

    Starmer himself spent 20 years as a practising lawyer before becoming DPP.
    David Lammy appears to have had about 6 years as a practising lawyer.
    Rachel Reeves had about 5 years at the Bank of England and then another 4 at HBOS.
    Shabana Mahmood has at least 6 years experience as a practising lawyer.
    Jo Stevens seems to have had about 20 years as a solicitor.
    Alan Campbell had about 16 years as a teacher.
    Steve Reed had 8 years in educational publishing.

    So out of 26 people attending cabinet, it seems that 4 have experience as lawyers, one teacher, one banker, one in publishing, and there are 19 whose only experience has been in politics or trade unions or lobbying groups.

    I agree, that doesn't bode well for connection with the many people's lives.

    Having said that, at a rough count 23 out of the 31 people attending Sunak's last cabinet had previously had some sort of significant careers outside politics, and that didn't work out too well did it?
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    You are correct I had discounted the lawyers as most had worked with funding from the $2B government funds for public defense / persecution.

    The Heir to a business was discounted as he we to private school and David Lammy for being David Lammy that poor kid who had to wear what he could for school especially the choral recitals at his school for hard knocks



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    So that leaves someone in educational publishing and someone who worked in a bank for just over a couple of years

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    You are correct I had discounted the lawyers as most had worked with funding from the $2B government funds for public defense / persecution.

    The Heir to a business was discounted as he we to private school and David Lammy for being David Lammy that poor kid who had to wear what he could for school especially the choral recitals at his school for hard knocks



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    So that leaves someone in educational publishing and someone who worked in a bank for just over a couple of years
    Can you give evidence that a private sector background provides better policies? Didn't work very well for the last few years did it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    Can you give evidence that a private sector background provides better policies? Didn't work very well for the last few years did it?
    No. Just an opinion that working in the higher pressure private sector helps as a filter. Similar to thinking an over concentration Oxbridge is good / bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    No. Just an opinion that working in the higher pressure private sector helps as a filter. Similar to thinking an over concentration Oxbridge is good / bad
    But apparently a crap filter given what the country endured.

    I would suggest a concentration of Oxbridge is not bad, with good minds and is open to all. Eton on the other hand....

    No comment on your racist chums in Reform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    But apparently a crap filter given what the country endured.

    I would suggest a concentration of Oxbridge is not bad, with good minds and is open to all. Eton on the other hand....

    No comment on your racist chums in Reform?
    Which policies of the previous administration did you not like?

    Record spending on the NHS
    Aggressively Increasing minimum
    Raising tax thresholds the most for the poorest
    Massively increasing immigration and more importantly the diversity of immigration
    World leading humanitarian refugee acceptance

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Which policies of the previous administration did you not like?

    Record spending on the NHS
    Aggressively Increasing minimum
    Raising tax thresholds the most for the poorest
    Massively increasing immigration and more importantly the diversity of immigration
    World leading humanitarian refugee acceptance
    Also world's fastest vaccine rollout, opening up for Hong Kongers and sending tanks to Ukraine before it was cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by GentleGeorge:
    Also world's fastest vaccine rollout, opening up for Hong Kongers and sending tanks to Ukraine before it was cool
    They also opted out of the EU scheme to push potential migrants to the less than stable Niger which makes the politically noisy UK Rwanda Scheme look much better than it should.

    https://www.statewatch.org/media/378...on-control.pdf
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