Man detained at Manchester

[hullexile]

My new word for today: affray. I don't think American English uses this word to describe brawling. Learn something new every day. Watched the video, cannot figure out what was happening there, beyond the obvious stomping. Will see if a better synopsis of events exists.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...english/affray

It is more than fighting in public but also requires that the general public seeing it would fear for their own safety. The law is only from 1986 in the UK.

[Morrison]

My new word for today: affray. I don't think American English uses this word to describe brawling. Learn something new every day. Watched the video, cannot figure out what was happening there, beyond the obvious stomping. Will see if a better synopsis of events exists.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...english/affray

Apparently a distant cousin of “afraid”

affray (n.)
c. 1300, "fear, terror, state of alarm produced by a sudden disturbance," from Old French affrai, effrei, esfrei "disturbance, fright," from esfreer (v.) "to worry, concern, trouble, disturb," from Vulgar Latin *exfridare, a hybrid word meaning literally "to take out of peace."
The first element is from Latin ex "out of" (see ex-). The second is Frankish *frithu "peace," from Proto-Germanic *frithuz "peace, consideration, forbearance" (source also of Old Saxon frithu, Old English friðu, Old High German fridu "peace, truce," German Friede "peace"), from a suffixed form of PIE root *pri- "to be friendly, to love."
The meaning "breach of the peace, riotous fight in public" is from late 15c., via the notion of "disturbance causing terror." The French verb also entered Middle English, as afrey "to terrify, frighten" (early 14c.), but it survives almost exclusively in its past participle, afraid (q.v.).
also from c. 1300

[Shiojiri Hiro]

It's a noun right, so there is no past tense?

I am...afrayed [afraid] I don't know...

[shri]

It's a noun right, so there is no past tense?

Hah.. you nouned us with that one!

[hullexile]

It's a noun right, so there is no past tense?

Afraid is from the verb to afrey. From Morrison's link.

[MABinPengChau]

It is more than fighting in public but also requires that the general public seeing it would fear for their own safety. The law is only from 1986 in the UK.

However, "affray" appears to have been an offense at common law, and 1986 only codifies the offense so you don't need to find case law from 1537 supporting the definition of the crime.

Apparently used in some US states that used a lot of English common law offenses, maybe codifed there as well. I went to law school in VA, we had a lot of archaic stuff what with being the first British colony and all that, but I would have remembered this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affray...sonal%20safety.

[Morrison]

What’s scares me more is how close Old English friðu and Old High German fridu are.
On top of that, “Fridu” is pretty much colloquial German.
So any Old English speaker ( @hullexile) could comfortably study in Göttingen.

btw, what was the topic of this thread ?

[ArrynField]

Surprisingly nothing kicked off outside the police station as 100’s protested last night.

https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-...-head-13184584

[ArrynField]

Also used locally…

https://www.clic.org.hk/en/topics/Fr...ffences/affray

[MABinPengChau]

Also used locally…

https://www.clic.org.hk/en/topics/Fr...ffences/affray

British colony, so, yeah...seems also in all the Commonwealth countries and a few former colonies in the USA. I know we still have olde English-y offenses like mayhem- some level of wounding to make the opponent defenseless or some such, so, yeah, all these things are still out there...