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mrgoodkat · 16-04-2025, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Gatts:

A)Please refer to my post #617. UN clearly says it's a genocide based on all the evidence. You also seem confused by the definition of the word, part of a country or population surviving is not counter to the term.

B) Of course many if not most people pro-Israeli boycott are also anti Hamas. Or are you calling the UN pro-Hamas?

You mean the UN where undemocratic countries number the majority? The one that has issued about three times as many resolutions against Israel than the rest of the world (including Russia, Syria or Myanmar) in 2024 alone? Over the last 10 years there have been over 140 resolutions condemning Israel versus 68 against the rest of the world. That UN? Yeah, who gives a shit what they think.

Originally Posted by hullexile:

To clarify, genocide does not mean "to wipe off the map". You will find the definition says "in whole or in part".

They aren't doing it in part either. There are more Gazans now than there were a year ago. Worst attempt at genocide ever.

hullexile · 16-04-2025, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:

You mean the UN where undemocratic countries number the majority? The one that has issued about three times as many resolutions against Israel than the rest of the world (including Russia, Syria or Myanmar) in 2024 alone? Over the last 10 years there have been over 140 resolutions condemning Israel versus 68 against the rest of the world. That UN? Yeah, who gives a shit what they think.

They aren't doing it in part either. There are more Gazans now than there were a year ago. Worst attempt at genocide ever.

What is your source for the population of Gaza? A quick Google shows a reduction from 2.3 million before the war to 2.1 million now.

There is nothing in the definition of genocide that requires a reduction in population. Please give it a read.

SirNotAppearing · 16-04-2025, 09:07 AM

Gazans are not being genocided, but simply being given premature deaths, especially women and children. Oooh, bet that statement would land me in El Salvador if I were in some country.
Never forget.

mrgoodkat · 16-04-2025, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by SirNotAppearing:

Gazans are not being genocided, but simply being given premature deaths, especially women and children. Oooh, bet that statement would land me in El Salvador if I were in some country.
Never forget.

Gaza, the most progressive place in the Middle East, where all the men identify as women and children.

Originally Posted by hullexile:

What is your source for the population of Gaza? A quick Google shows a reduction from 2.3 million before the war to 2.1 million now.

There is nothing in the definition of genocide that requires a reduction in population. Please give it a read.

The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics estimates a 1% population growth rate. But the same source also says 38,000 "martyrs" left their home, so they are probably biased towards overestimating the impact the war has on their population.

https://www.pcbs.gov.ps/post.aspx?lang=en&ItemID=5791

hullexile · 16-04-2025, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:

Gaza, the most progressive place in the Middle East, where all the men identify as women and children.

The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics estimates a 1% population growth rate. But the same source also says 38,000 "martyrs" left their home, so they are probably biased towards overestimating the impact the war has on their population.

https://www.pcbs.gov.ps/post.aspx?lang=en&ItemID=5791

So based even on that data the population growth slowed from 2.7% to 1%. I agree with you the data is very dubious both because of the source and because of the situation. How reliable would you consider a census in the midfle of total destruction and mass displacement? And this isn't even a census but an estimation. So I would take your statement that the population has increased with a barrel of salt.

Again a reduction is not required for actions to be called genocide.

Gatts · 16-04-2025, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:

You mean the UN where undemocratic countries number the majority? The one that has issued about three times as many resolutions against Israel than the rest of the world (including Russia, Syria or Myanmar) in 2024 alone? Over the last 10 years there have been over 140 resolutions condemning Israel versus 68 against the rest of the world. That UN? Yeah, who gives a shit what they think.

If you had even just skimmed that report, you'd have seen that the evidence is overwhelming. It's so overwhelming in fact, Netanyahu has an arrest order for him for his hand in this genocide.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/11/1157286

Also you haven't adressed the point that many, if not most pro-palestine protestors are also anti-Hamas. Something which you seem to have trouble registering.