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    Quote Originally Posted by paddylast:
    Does this make the Canadian voter come across well?

    They've elected a novice leader of a party they grew to despise just because Trump. And now the new leader is obliged to play hardball against the US while watching perceived allies make deals.

    I thought Canadian were less emotional than their southern neighbours.

    Your novice is an intelligent, well spoken Central Banker not just at home in Canada but also of the Bank of England.

    It's not some demented real estate scam artist
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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    They have elected a very intelligent man with a great deal of financial experience to stand up to a madman who has delusions that all other world leaders want to kiss his arse.

    What deals has he struck so far in his first 100 days?
    Is that why they elected him because of his intelligence and financial experience? I thought most financial experts were suggesting that responding in kind to Trump's tariffs is not a great idea? I thought a very wise and prudent man might offer something else than tit-for-tat?

    My sense is that (like the election of Trump) it was an emotional choice and after it settles down in a few months, the people who were struggling with the cost of living pre-tariffs, and who changed their minds, might have buyer's remorse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddylast:

    My sense is that (like the election of Trump) it was an emotional choice and after it settles down in a few months, the people who were struggling with the cost of living pre-tariffs, and who changed their minds, might have buyer's remorse.
    Sure. The conservative candidate would have magically cut prices across the board in half and doubled everyone's salary to combat those 'cost of living' issues. Truly magical!
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    Quote Originally Posted by paddylast:
    Is that why they elected him because of his intelligence and financial experience? I thought most financial experts were suggesting that responding in kind to Trump's tariffs is not a great idea? I thought a very wise and prudent man might offer something else than tit-for-tat?

    My sense is that (like the election of Trump) it was an emotional choice and after it settles down in a few months, the people who were struggling with the cost of living pre-tariffs, and who changed their minds, might have buyer's remorse.
    So of the USA's main trading partners which have agreed deals? Which have instead played hardball?

    Yes they very much voted for him because of his intelligence and experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newhkpr:
    Sure. The conservative candidate would have magically cut prices across the board in half and doubled everyone's salary to combat those 'cost of living' issues. Truly magical!
    If you read my original post you may have seen the reference to how unhappy people were with the Liberal party after so many years in office. It stands to reason that if the party in charge for over a decade hasn't been able to get things right , the population would usually turn to another party to give them a chance. That's how democracy tends to work. This is a bit like Boris Johnson leading the Tories to victory. Johnson used Brexit to propel an unpopular party to victory. Carney used Trump.

    So this is an emotional decision in my view, electing a guy they don't even know because he spoke out against a leader of another country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddylast:
    If you read my original post you may have seen the reference to how unhappy people were with the Liberal party after so many years in office. It stands to reason that if the party in charge for over a decade hasn't been able to get things right , the population would usually turn to another party to give them a chance. That's how democracy tends to work. This is a bit like Boris Johnson leading the Tories to victory. Johnson used Brexit to propel an unpopular party to victory. Carney used Trump.

    So this is an emotional decision in my view, electing a guy they don't even know because he spoke out against a leader of another country.
    "A guy they don't even know"

    Trump level of reality. I think they knew of him.

    To me given the choice I think it was a totally rational decision. Following the discussions on FB over the last few weeks all the emotion (mostly hatred and abuse) seemed to be coming from the Conservative side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    So of the USA's main trading partners which have agreed deals? Which have instead played hardball?

    Yes they very much voted for him because of his intelligence and experience.
    I didn't say any deals have been. I think they will be done though. I think if you listen to what leaders are saying the EU is not going to rock the boat. The UK is salivating at the prospect of a renewed special relationship. Most experienced politicians are smart enough to know how to deal with Trump, to get what they want, to get through the next four years, and to let him have enough to be able to claim victory.

    It's just an opinion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    "A guy they don't even know"

    Trump level of reality. I think they knew of him.

    To me given the choice I think it was a totally rational decision. Following the discussions on FB over the last few weeks all the emotion (mostly hatred and abuse) seemed to be coming from the Conservative side.
    Just a figure of speech. Normally it takes a long period of time in the public eye so that the public trust you to run the country.

    The impression I got was that he was not a household name until recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddylast:
    So this is an emotional decision in my view, electing a guy they don't even know because he spoke out against a leader of another country.
    I think it was more a case of not electing someone who had very few policy ideas (just build houses & dig for oil) and aping Trump language with a Canada First Economic Action plan.
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