Taiwan - Something about independence & cannibalism

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Many see trump as a hero while many also see him as fraud, but hey look who is in power. Many have an opinion but numbers reflects some form of reality.

[hullexile]

Many see trump as a hero while many also see him as fraud, but hey look who is in power. Many have an opinion but numbers reflects some form of reality.

What does that mean and how is it connected to the post?

[paddylast]

Maybe someone can educate me (again) because I never got the western opinion on Taiwan.

My basic knowledge is that one group lost the China civil war and fled to an island of China. The winners decided not to pursue in order to cement power on the mainland. Does the fact that China didn't chase them give them the right to the land they lost in the civil war?

Is it squatters' rights, or what exactly is their claim?

[newhkpr]

For many many years export from Taiwan to China/HK is at 40%.
When majority of your economy is dependent on your 'enemy' you seem to have a fucking problem... or is it not really your enemy that US media seems to play?

You talk a whole lot of crap. China is the major trading partner for the majority of the world. What does that have to do with anything?

[MABinPengChau]

Maybe someone can educate me (again) because I never got the western opinion on Taiwan.

My basic knowledge is that one group lost the China civil war and fled to an island of China. The winners decided not to pursue in order to cement power on the mainland. Does the fact that China didn't chase them give them the right to the land they lost in the civil war?

Is it squatters' rights, or what exactly is their claim?

Umm, @shri I didn't start the thread hijack but, by GOD, I will finish it, feel free to split this into its own thread.

China doesn't get TW until almost 1700 after everyone and his brother had a colony- the ususal suspects in SE Asia, Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish. Eventually UK shows up, not sure when they took over a fort somewhere up north, added tea rooms.

Then China loses it to Japan, end of 1800s. Japan makes it a colony, builds pretty much most of the rail lines we are still using so that was something.

At the end of WWII, well, Japan lost its colonies and a bunch of other stuff what with the help of nuclear weapons.

There had been some treaty to return it to China but, oops, never signed, so was handed over to the Republic of China probably because one more thing didn't want to go communist after WWII.

Have a read on Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan

Who really got there first? Like the Philippines, the aboriginal people who took boats from...wherever in prehistoric times. Followed by getting really screwed by people who came later, just like Native Americans. Glad we're not the only ones...

Bottom line: China's "ownership" is no more valid than the Netherlands, Portugal, or Spain, (or Japan), just another "colonizer."

[MABinPengChau]

Interrelaion among various indigenous people in SE Asia/Australia/NZ

Probably someone has also done extensive DNA studies by now...

https://keelung-for-a-walk.com/cultu...d-polynesians/

[PLamHK]

Interrelaion among various indigenous people in SE Asia/Australia/NZ

If they were close to Maoris they'd be a lot better at rugby!

[MABinPengChau]

If they were close to Maoris they'd be a lot better at rugby!

I've heard rumors that they were good at cannibalism, about the same thing as rugby.

[SirNotAppearing]

Cannibals, sure. But they were Fine Young Cannibals.

[MABinPengChau]

Cannibals, sure. But they were Fine Young Cannibals.

Let's see if they can dance to their music or not...