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    Hmma word of caution. I dont live inTun Mun but go down there frequently, and the whole area has lost a lot of the vibrancy it had a few years back. The Gold Coast has no rail link, and even in Tun Mun the West Rail takes forever to get anywhere. Youre dependent on the buses, or the perilous mini buses, to get down to TST or the island, and the road along the coast is a long and winding one.

    Tun Mun is a fair step from the Gold Coast dont know if the estates run shuttle buses, services (they should do but check it) - otherwise its a tedious wait out on the road certainly a long way to go for a wet market!

    Ive heard that the flats in Phase One are pretty run down, and $6,500 for 700 sq ft seems remarkably cheap, so take care.

    It used to be quite lively but much of the night life has died away. Dont be taken in by glossy pics on the website. The beaches are drab and seriously eroding, and the Gold Coast shopping centre is tiny.

    Your best bet is to take a service apartment for a couple of weeks when you come over and have a good look around. In particular let your wife get the feel of the place and make the choice as it sounds as if shell be spending a lot of time at home looking after the children.


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    Huh? You are not describing the place I live in for sure!

    It's EASY to get to Tuen Mun from here ... the K51, K53, 43, 43A, 43B, 43C, 43D, 53, public light bus, 962, 962b, 61M, 140M and 52X all go there (sometimes slightly different drop-off spots). I have never waited for more than about 2 minutes for a bus. Or it takes no more than 30 mins to WALK to the wet market from here!

    And as for getting to central, YES the residences (at least the GC ones) Do have residents buses. But even if not, they 962 comes ever 10 minutes or so.

    I actually avoid the trains these days - buses are faster and WAY more comfortable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Araucaria
    Hmma word of caution. I dont live inTun Mun but go down there frequently, and the whole area has lost a lot of the vibrancy it had a few years back. The Gold Coast has no rail link, and even in Tun Mun the West Rail takes forever to get anywhere. Youre dependent on the buses, or the perilous mini buses, to get down to TST or the island, and the road along the coast is a long and winding one.

    Tun Mun is a fair step from the Gold Coast dont know if the estates run shuttle buses, services (they should do but check it) - otherwise its a tedious wait out on the road certainly a long way to go for a wet market!

    Ive heard that the flats in Phase One are pretty run down, and $6,500 for 700 sq ft seems remarkably cheap, so take care.

    It used to be quite lively but much of the night life has died away. Dont be taken in by glossy pics on the website. The beaches are drab and seriously eroding, and the Gold Coast shopping centre is tiny.

    Your best bet is to take a service apartment for a couple of weeks when you come over and have a good look around. In particular let your wife get the feel of the place and make the choice as it sounds as if shell be spending a lot of time at home looking after the children.
    Not much of the night life eh ? Its a residential AREA !
    Or is that being a little too obvious lol

    I LOVE the very quiet community out here, its very peaceful, and quiet enjoyable to sit outside on the water side promenade on a Sunday arvo for a couple of beers at the Med Star, or a light brunch in the morning, with the distinct lack of boisterous crowds that afflict most public area's in HK.
    Most of the larger apartments also have gas ovens, so you can cook at home, if you prefer.


    We lived in Sai Kung before, and find that the Gold Coast Mall is equally as friendly, quiet family centric, with a good mix of expats and locals, without being too cheesy or cluttered.

    I still find it weird that some posters automatically assume that people who love living here, work city bound, or even enjoy the micro bar scene of LKF. A large majority of the expats here, actually own their properties, are very settled, and enjoy the area because of its very western suburban pace. I love our cul de sac, and our own beach opposite our complex, beats the crowded golden beach lol and we can walk dogs, fly kites with no chance of the fun police raining on our parade, and again, crowd free.

    Also a large percentage of us are airport bound, Shenzhen bound or work locally. Even my vet in Yuen Long lives in our neighbourhood. When you start to meet people here, and ask where they work etc, most answer that they don't work city bound, just like the OP's situation. Its very usual, there are a few that do work in the city, it would be about 5 to 1 that don't.


    Sounds like Araucaria has had a bad experience in in the Siu Lam So Kwun Wat locality of Tuen Mun ( where the Gold Coast is located ) or they have never lived here.
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    I heartily endorse Skyhooks post. I do work in Central, although also work from home at least one or two days a week too, but do not find it inconvenient. If I worked in Tuen Mun I would say it was hugely convenient! Yes - it is completely different from Hong Kong Island, but, like Skyhook notes, that is the attraction!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhook

    I still find it weird that some posters automatically assume that people who love living here, work city bound, or even enjoy the micro bar scene of LKF.

    Sounds like Araucaria has had a bad experience in in the Siu Lam So Kwun Wat locality of Tuen Mun ( where the Gold Coast is located ) or they have never lived here.
    I've no idea what you're talking about. The OP made it clear he'd be teaching in Tun Mun and my comments about shuttle buses were intended accordingly. Most housing estates in Hong Kong offer transport to the nearest commercial centre/railway station,which would be handy in his case.

    English_Monkey - make sure you know where in Tun Mun your school is. It could be anywhere from down to Butterfly up almost to Hong Shui Kui (where there are several new housing complexes). You might like to study this map.

    Sam Shing Hui Map | Hong Kong Google Satellite Maps

    Gold Coast is already 10 - 15 minutes from the centre of Tun Mun, and if you're working in the north you'll probably need 2 buses. The junction at Sam Shing can be a nightmare at rush hour, so expect to be held up there. Why not Google for teachers' websites in Hong Kong and see what others in your position have to say?

    I've never lived in Gold Coast so have no axe to grind. Several friends of mine live there in both high rises and village houses and I've been a regular visitor for ten years. They say it's ok but you should certainly look at other options - I stand by my original advice, which is to make a temporary arrangement first before you commit yourself to a lease. Whatever, be wary of the dubious 'package holiday' contents of the Gold Coast website, and put you wife's/family's interests and your work location first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by araucaria
    I've never lived in Gold Coast so have no axe to grind. Several friends of mine live there in both high rises and village houses and I've been a regular visitor for ten years. They say it's ok but you should certainly look at other options - I stand by my original advice, which is to make a temporary arrangement first before you commit yourself to a lease. Whatever, be wary of the dubious 'package holiday' contents of the Gold Coast website, and put you wife's/family's interests and your work location first.
    And what alternatives would you suggest ? Considering you can rent a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom 919ft2 apartment here for $9,000 inc a car space, ( not in the Gold Coast but 10 minutes walk from it ).

    Bang for buck, this area ROCKS !

    Lets see what your alternatives are Araucaria .

    The OP has about 15 different complexes to choose from in the immediate area that orbits the Gold Coast Residences, nobody is putting a gun to their head to live just there.

    And for the record, nobody likes SINO properties inc which manage the GC, which is why I suggested during my first post to rent an apartment that is PRIVATELY owned, either in the GC or in the surrounding neighbourhood, as it usually works out more cost effective for the tenant..
    Last edited by Skyhook; 29-06-2008 at 02:01 PM.

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    At last someone s put a realistic figure down - $9,000 sounds a lot more likely than the $6,500 quoted to the OP.

    Easily the best place for young families in North West NT is Fairview Park two storey semis with front and back yards, quiet and safe streets for kids to roam around in (notwithstanding the awful accident which the residents action group are still up in arms about). At weekends the kids hire quadbikes and ride around the estate nothing else like it in Hong Kong that Ive seen. Many English-speaking local families keen to socialise with you, and wanting their kids to get to know yours (cos they practise their English) - and no need for the wife to be shut in a high rise all day long.

    Being based in Tun Mun has advantages you don't have to compete for accommodation with people who work in other parts, so you can go for areas with lower rentals. Dont know what the rent is in Fairview Park these days maybe more than $9,000 but worth every penny. If your schools in the north of Tun Mun, its equidistant to Gold Coast or Fairview, with access from the north being easier.

    There are regular shuttle services to Sheung Shui and Yuen Long, but no wet market in Yuen Long there are two, the larger of which is extensive plus a whole host of traditional Chinese shops in the back streets. Sheung Shui has all the flashy shopping arcades if thats whats wanted. Both places are about 15 minutes by shuttle, as Fairview is on the highway.

    Its up to the OP to prioritise he mentioned Yuen Long so heres another possibility for him to explore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by araucaria
    At last someone s put a realistic figure down - $9,000 sounds a lot more likely than the $6,500 quoted to the OP.

    Easily the best place for young families in North West NT is Fairview Park two storey semis with front and back yards, quiet and safe streets for kids to roam around in (notwithstanding the awful accident which the residents action group are still up in arms about). At weekends the kids hire quadbikes and ride around the estate nothing else like it in Hong Kong that Ive seen. Many English-speaking local families keen to socialise with you, and wanting their kids to get to know yours (cos they practise their English) - and no need for the wife to be shut in a high rise all day long.

    Being based in Tun Mun has advantages you don't have to compete for accommodation with people who work in other parts, so you can go for areas with lower rentals. Dont know what the rent is in Fairview Park these days maybe more than $9,000 but worth every penny. If your schools in the north of Tun Mun, its equidistant to Gold Coast or Fairview, with access from the north being easier.

    There are regular shuttle services to Sheung Shui and Yuen Long, but no wet market in Yuen Long there are two, the larger of which is extensive plus a whole host of traditional Chinese shops in the back streets. Sheung Shui has all the flashy shopping arcades if thats whats wanted. Both places are about 15 minutes by shuttle, as Fairview is on the highway.

    Its up to the OP to prioritise he mentioned Yuen Long so heres another possibility for him to explore.

    I am sorry, but you are off the dial, and not providing any helpful "factual" advice to the OP's original question.

    Fairview Park in Yuen Long is a totally different area. And they do not appeal in any way to the same people. Iam surprized you didnt mention Kam Tin, or Shek Kong too.

    Fairview Park is not a bay side location for a start, which is largely what attracts people to the Gold Coast end of Tuen Mun, and all the way up to the Sham Tseng ( The Bellagio ), but again, i don't want to state the obvious.

    How long does it take you on the Fairview Park coach to Yuen Long town ? more than 10 minutes, because it takes me longer to drive, and i am very familiar with the Yuen Long area. I bought all our building materials in Yuen Long when we renovated our apartment, and regularly shop around Wang Fat Path in Yuen Long. It takes me 15 minutes to drive to via the Tuen Mun High way. Just to give a little geographical perspective.

    Longer than it takes us to get to Tuen Mun wet markets lol Not to mention the messing around of having to use multiple buses to get to Tuen Mun each day for work from yuen Long.

    Sorry, but your suggestion and opinion are not of interest to the majority of expats, hence why Fairview park is very unpopular with the expat community, its well known as the white elephant..
    Last edited by Skyhook; 29-06-2008 at 04:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by araucaria
    At last someone s put a realistic figure down - $9,000 sounds a lot more likely than the $6,500 quoted to the OP.
    Umm, you can EASILLY rent 3 bedroom 700ft2 village houses here for $6,500 in Ka Wo Gardens. Maybe even including a roof top terrace, with free car parking... 10 minute walk also from the Gold Coast Mall. They may or may not have a sea view, but plenty exist.

    The very first row of village houses, in ka wo gardens in the first and second tier, due to elevation, are the best in my opinion, we almost bought a 2100 ft2 village house there, that had an excellent sea view of the GC marina etc.

    There was never anything unrealistic about the info that was posted from our end, just yours Araucaria.
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    Here are some photo's I took 16 months ago, of some village houses in Ka Wo Garden, which are almost opposite the Gold Coast Residences.

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    The view from the roof top, Gold Coast residences seen on the right hand side.

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    The Gold Coast mall itself

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    A Photo from the Med Star pub el fresco out door area.

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    And a view taken from our rooftop of where we ended up living...

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