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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    The article you have linked tries to blur the role of NATO and other conflicts near Europe that have involved US and some European troops. Being a member of NATO does not mean you have to engage in conflicts any of the member states engage in outside the region. This is a silly concept.

    NATO is a club and part of the membership of the club is 2% of GDP to be spent on defense. Most European countries do not meet their commitment. Overseas aid is different to defense and is not part of the NATO commitment.

    It is not complex many European countries do not spend enough on defense probably as a result of the one-in-all-in concept that give a nice comfort that you can call on the high spending nations if you really do get invaded.
    Yup and if you ask me they should spend even less and more should be allocated to education, poverty etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat:
    Yup and if you ask me they should spend even less and more should be allocated to education, poverty etc etc.
    Probably. It does seem strange to have the same requirement now as in the 1970's as the threat profile is different.

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    Good step has take so far. On the other hand, Trump says to re-unit USA again. How much true is this?


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    So, @East_coast, when will Hong Kong pay its fair share for the defense of Hong Kong? Don't you think it's a little unfair that Hong Kong doesn't pay a dime for defense and young Hong Kongers are not objected to conscription. Just to let you know, if Hong Kong is ever under attack, Mainlanders will die for this city.


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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    Just to let you know, if Hong Kong is ever under attack, Mainlanders will die for this city.
    Not sure what your point is. Surely the Army of China would defend any part of the country if it was attacked?

    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    So, @East_coast, when will Hong Kong pay its fair share for the defense of Hong Kong? Don't you think it's a little unfair that Hong Kong doesn't pay a dime for defense and young Hong Kongers are not objected to conscription.
    Probably but it probably is easier with the current arrangement to ensure the appearance of separation of powers and one country two systems. Keeping the PLA out of local politics is surely a good thing for all.
    Last edited by East_coast; 24-01-2017 at 11:46 PM.