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    Disgusting.

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...variant=tb_v_2

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    How many more of these shootings need to happen before the general public wakes the f..k up and demands tighter restrictions on weapons?

    What I am not grasping - even in setting aside the USA - is how the weakest of people in politics seem to be those most strongly advocating for guns in the hands of 'law abiding' citizens versus stricter controls including background checks.

    Canada's next PM - if the Conservatives win - is not dissimilar to those weak people who believe they're safer possessing guns and that semi-automatic weapons are fine in the hands of law abiding citizens. While this Tory Leader of the Opposition has removed his gun policy it's not out of the media. I never thought I'd see a serious political leader suggest that there be a gun Ombudsman to "advocate" for gun owners and to place in the gun advocate (called Ombudsman strangely) the power to designate which guns are to be restricted.

    Let's hope that the US Sandy Hook families win the court case against the gun manufacturers as a win in the USA where it's ground zero for guns might change the course of guns globally. The lawyers there have seized on the advertising for the AR-15 used to kill 26 in 264 seconds which speaks of being great for any mission like a soldier. A court has ruled that on this narrow basis their court case can proceed.

    Guns currently are protected in the USA from the manufacturer being sued but this case looks promising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    New Zealand needs to take a serious look at its gun laws particularly semi-automatic rifles.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...UEBnV9eXHJDPXw
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    The manifesto indicates that he moved to New Zealand to stage his attack, which he had been planning for two years. His aim, he said, was to defend “our lands” from “invaders,” to “reduce immigration rates” and to deepen division and start a civil war in the United States.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.21a9881994d1


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    Watched Ardern, sounds confident and competent and in control. Impressive.

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    Unfortunately, radicalization of Western society is just starting. I expect a lot more events of this type to occur in the future. I see radicalization happening around us on a daily basis. Whether it's friends, family, or even stories in the media. People are unplugging from traditional media on masse and surround themselves with extremist ideologies. Stories like the above are the end result. Trump is not a cause of this. He's a symptom of the radicalization that has already occured prior to him running for president. However, the danger in that is that he now provides an echo or validation of extremist thought from a position of power.

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    Radicalization of Western Society is the same as the radicalization of muslims. It's a small minority that is creating headlines and they are mostly cowards that are afraid of change and not confident enough to adapt and fit in a new world. It's the refuge of the dumb and the incompetent that feel their place threatened by people better than them. When you are strong,confident and competent, you don't worry about competition.

    Whether it's race, gender, sexual orientation or anything else, if a person is happy with themselves, they will let others take their place in society on merit and won't fear or oppose it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    Watched Ardern, sounds confident and competent and in control. Impressive.
    Agree in both tone and content.

    Condolences, very sad day.
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  10. #40

    'Not all white people are racist.' 'Maybe he just had a bad day.' 'There are crazy people everywhere.' 'This is karma for what Muslims did to us.'

    Plenty of these comments on Facebook.

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