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Last edited by fth; 17-07-2010 at 07:18 PM.
Well, at least we DON'T call our US Army, US Liberation Army.
Oh I'm really sorry to use a source as unreliable as GWU... Deficit and debt don't matter? Gee I'd love to see your finances... Just reread some of your posts and you'll understand why some people.
Japan tried to get rid of US bases but got strong armed in keeping them. Hatoyama is going along even though it might cost him reelection. That's what you call approval?
From Angus Reid which I would say is more reliable than you: South Koreans Want U.S. Troops to Leave
Polling Data
Do you think U.S. forces currently stationed in South Korea should be withdrawn immediately, withdrawn gradually, left for a considerable period of time, or left permanently?
Withdrawn immediately
4%
Withdrawn gradually
50%
Left for a considerable period of time
30%
Left permanently
16%
The U.S. has pushed Japan to uphold the 2006 agreement to move Futenma within Okinawa, as part of a $10.3 billion plan that would also transfer 8,000 Marines to Guam. Clinton met with Hatoyama and Foreign Minister Katsuya Okada in Tokyo on May 21, saying both countries sought “an operationally viable” solution.
Washington, D.C., 25 February 2003 - The National Security Archive at George Washington University today published on the Web a series of declassified U.S. documents detailing the U.S. embrace of Saddam Hussein in the early 1980's, including the renewal of diplomatic relations that had been suspended since 1967. The documents show that during this period of renewed U.S. support for Saddam, he had invaded his neighbor (Iran), had long-range nuclear aspirations that would "probably" include "an eventual nuclear weapon capability," harbored known terrorists in Baghdad, abused the human rights of his citizens, and possessed and used chemical weapons on Iranians and his own people. The U.S. response was to renew ties, to provide intelligence and aid to ensure Iraq would not be defeated by Iran, and to send a high-level presidential envoy named Donald Rumsfeld to shake hands with Saddam (20 December 1983).
I'm not going to bother continuing to expose your foolishness because it's pretty obvious that you are completely clueless about your own country which I guess is what one would expect from an american.
Gilly, your posts continue to get increasingly pathetic - please continue however, as everything you cite simply confirms everything I've said. More polls showing 96% of South Koeans want the Amercians to stay in Korea (even if that mattered) please!
Alternatively, you might want to try to learn a few things before posing as an amateur expert in international affairs. Please resume your work at Starbucks, or whatever field you actually have competence in.
Last edited by Freetrader; 18-07-2010 at 12:10 AM.
Never was an Army better named. The PLA has done lots of 'liberating' during its existence. Its guns have liberated the farmers from their land; and the farmers crops from the collective farms they created at gunpoint; it has enforced economic and social policies that liberate the savings of the people and keep most of the Nation in a second-class citizen status; money thus liberated from the people has been cycled back into the crony capitalist enterprises run by the PLA; and over the years the PLA guns have maintained a corrupt party in power through the direct and indirect liberation of 40-60 million people from the yoke of human life. Yup, lots of 'liberating' in the name of the people, there.
The PLA are simply the goon squad of the CCP. The only 'People' they represent are themselves.
Last edited by Freetrader; 18-07-2010 at 01:13 AM.
Gilly sez: Quote "Hatoyama is going along even though it might cost him reelection."
With your vast knowledge of world affairs, you somehow have failed to notice that Hatoyama resigned as PM of Japan over two months ago, doorknob. He resigned because he made promises that were impossible to keep, because he bungled the negotiations so badly and acted so indecisively, and because the Japanese are increasingly worried about local security.
Last edited by Freetrader; 18-07-2010 at 01:17 AM.
You have to differentiate between the Armed Police ( a separate entity from the normal police ) and the Army. It is the Armed Police that do this sort of stuff , just because a guy wears Khaki and a tin hat in China don't mean he's Army. Even security guards wear it. The PLA is beloved ( the peoples words whom I have discussed this matter with ) by the people who see then doing not just defense of the motherland and disaster work but they help out with a LOT of local infrastructure stuff day in day out. I count quite a few as personal friends and they have never been shy in discussing sensitive matters to another soldier ( me ) and I am grateful for having the understanding.
The Armed police are able to be mobilized by any party Cadre and are thus used to " influence " events. The PLA can only be mobilsed by the Central Committee ( not sure the actual name -- there are so many ) in Beijing after a request that MUST come from the Party head at province level. Even the governor can not mobilze unless they go through the party head. The PLA is controlled this way for obvious reasons and would not be available for " local troubles ".
You make a good point that most of the internal head bashing is not done by the PLA - I understand that the PLA is beloved and has maintained its reputation despite Tiananmen; to a large extent that is because they have a great propaganda machine since the CCPs power ultimately rests with the PLA. I understand that the relatvely new policy regarding mobiliztion is intended to limit the chances of the PLA actually having to massacre students again.
I should also point out that I generally respect military types as brave, patriotic, and straightforward guys. The same is true for the PLA. But, I would note the Werhmacht during WWII also had plenty of brave, moral, competent and patriotic men who had good intentions. Unfortunately the PLA is indeed the Party's Army, not the People's (although we can be hopeful that that may change). Ultimately it is the cause in which you serve that determines your worthiness.
Last edited by Freetrader; 18-07-2010 at 01:37 AM.
You are wrong, because some of those police uniforms were not issued until 2002-3. However, what those people did or are accused of detracts from the point that nobody in China is given a fair trail, free from government or Party interference, and with the right to appeal to an autonomous and Independent judiciary. What's worse is that China executes people for economic crimes. Under such circumstances, the state is committing murder.
Last edited by jpinst; 18-07-2010 at 02:19 AM.